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The doctrine of Immenency.

3 June, 2010

Here’s another great article about how this ‘doctrine of Imminency‘ is the ‘heartbeat of the Rapture!

Read it in it’s [entirety here]

A quote:

The Historical Record

Many of the contemporary writers who attack imminency try to promote the idea that this doctrine was recently dreamed up by men who were ignorant of the true meaning of Scripture.

One detractor states, “This frenzy [imminency] continues to survive today because of modern misconceptions about the purpose of these prophetic events and the time frame for their occurrence.”

Post-trib believers are the most vocal in their claim that the concepts of imminency and the pre-trib rapture only date back to the early 1800s. For several years, their charges went unanswered, but recently a number of men have dusted off old manuscripts and found several early Church fathers who were clearly looking for an imminent return of the Lord Jesus.

“All the saints and elect of God are gathered together before the tribulation, which is to come, and are taken to the Lord, in order that they may not see at any time the confusion which overwhelms the world because of our sins” (Pseudo-Ephraem (374-627 AD).

The First Epistle of Clement, 23 (written around 96 A.D. by Clement, a prominent leader of the church at Rome who knew some of the apostles personally and probably is the Clement referred to in Phil. 4:3): “Of a truth, soon and suddenly shall His will be accomplished, as the Scripture also bears witness, saying, ‘speedily will He come, and will not tarry.'”

As early as 70 – 180 AD, The Didache, chapter 16, section 1, says, “‘Be vigilant over your life; let your lamps not be extinguished, or your loins ungirded, but be prepared, for you know not the hour in which our Lord will come.”

“But what a spectacle is that fast-approaching advent of our Lord, now owned by all, now highly exalted, now a triumphant One!” (Tertullian 155 – 245 AD).

John Calvin, the reformer at Geneva during the 1500s and founder of the Presbyterian Church, made the following statements in some of his commentaries on books of the Bible: “Be prepared to expect Him every day, or rather every moment.” “As He has promised that He will return to us, we ought to hold ourselves prepared, at every moment to receive Him.” “Today we must be alert to grasp the imminent return of Christ.” Commenting on 1 Thessalonians 4, the “Rapture passage,” Calvin said that Paul “means by this to arouse the Thessalonians to wait for it, nay more, to hold all believers in suspense, that they may not promise themselves some particular time . . . that believers might be prepared at all times.”

The Westminster Confession, written by the Puritans of England during the 1600s, declared that men should “shake off all carnal security and be always watchful, because they know not at what hour the Lord will come.”

“I say, somewhat more because the dead saints will be raised, and the living changed at Christ’s ‘appearing in the air’ (1 Thess 4:17); and this will be about three years and a half before the millennium, as we shall see hereafter: but will he and they abide in the air all that time? No: they will ascend to paradise, or to some one of those many ‘mansions in the father’s house’ (John 14:2), and so disappear during the foresaid period of time.” (Morgan Edwards 1742-44).

I’m not much of a fan of relying on what scholarly men write about the Bible. I agree with the quotes I just cited, but I don’t really need a bunch of dead guys to tell me what is truth. I have over a dozen copies of the Good Book lying around the house, and I have the ability to read and understand each of them for myself.

History has proven that mankind is a dreadful biblical guide. The apostasy that swept over the Church caused a lack of prophecy commentary from about 450 AD until the 1600s. People stopped thinking for themselves. Their interpretation of the Bible became what the institutional church spoon-fed them.

Premillennialism largely disappeared after it was condemned as heretical by the Council of Ephesus in 431 AD. It wasn’t until the reform movement of the early seventeenth century that we see a rebound in the number of statements that reflect the pretribulational view.


3 Comments leave one →
  1. Jimmy permalink
    3 June, 2010 22:55

    As you probably know, Thomas Ice and Grant Jeffrey are among the noisiest ones claiming that pretrib was taught before 1830. For some background on these two pretrib defenders, Google “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Thomas Ice (Hired Gun),” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “Wily Jeffrey,” “Pretrib Rapture – Hidden Facts,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy” and “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty.” To see the real facts about Pseudo-Ephraem and Morgan Edwards, Google “Deceiving and Being Deceived” by MacPherson. To see how the greatest Greek scholars of all time interpreted Rev. 3:10, Google “Famous Rapture Watchers.” Lord bless. Jimmy


    • 5 June, 2010 12:20

      THank you for this info – I will check it out 🙂
      Be blessed bro – in your family and days as we wait on our Saviour!


    • 8 June, 2010 09:36

      Thanks for that info, Jimmy. I did research those links, but I have a tendency towards what the Word says – not all these teachers per sey…

      There is a Rapture ‘event’, but it may be right at the end of the trib..the gnat I and others are straining to find is WHEN…Pre, mid or Post. Can’t be post Mill…cuz it just wouldn’t make sense.

      All the signs seem to pointing towards the TRIB happening this year – perhaps even starting this summer? For the signs are what we are supposed to be paying attention to – for we are not of the night that the day may take us as a thief, but blessed is the good man of the house who keeps watch and the Master finds him doing so when HE returns…(my paraphrase, but it’s in there 🙂 )

      So I guess it’s a faith, and wait and see thing. Please study Hebrews 11 – 13 if possible. I also posted this on the blog called ‘How?, By Faith…”. I get charged every time by this 🙂

      Personally, I believe that as people press into God more and more for that relationship with Him, He will be faithful to his promises – That we will be transformed by the renewing of our mind by the washing of the Word.

      Salvation means more to me than just making it to heaven…

      I believe that we have been given the Holy Spirit to help us walk through our lives daily as overcomers – in our health, wealth, wisdom, through adversity and good times, and to help others with this power of God – “The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord is upon me, because the Lord has appointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to comfort the brokenhearted and to announce that captives will be released and prisoners be freed.” Isaiah 61:1

      He has delivered us from the snare of the fowler and the trials made to bring the world to repentance.

      If we – His children – are already there, why send more trials? Probably for others that aren’t repenting – those who are in ‘deep sleep’?

      He does promise to deliver us however…examples: Enoch was raptured. Lot and Sodom/Gomorrah, Noah and the great flood, David from king Saul, The fiery furnace salvation, Daniel in the Lion’s den, Elijah was raptured, and so on and so forth…these people either served God despite the situation even thier personal sins…but they repented too and God saved them. He even spared Ninevah when they repented…

      He promises that we are not designated for wrath (tribulation – the ‘winepress’ in Rev.) God has always been about crucifying our flesh – even Jesus’ – to bring our will under His authority…

      I believe that if we can be ‘overcomers’ through the blood of the lamb (imputed to us AS RIGHTEOUSNESS – Heb 11) and the power of our testimony, no matter what, He will always be there to help – for he knows our frame and remembers that we are dust and does not send more trials that we can bear.

      As he has made an escape for those that KNOW this and follow it – BY FAITH…for without it, we cannot please God…

      Praying for you and your family, as we need to be lifting each other up in these dark days ahead 🙂

      Thanks for contacting – I hope that this has blessed you. This is my ONLY intent, not to sow false testimonies/prophecies and such. Seeking the scriptures daily to show ourselves approved unto God.

      Cheers Bro!


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