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Pentecost was too early this year? That may explain…

29 May, 2010

I found this post by another fellowbeliver found on 5 doves…take a look it ya’ have time. Some interesting stuff here to consider. If Pentecost really is in June than this even more confirms my re-occuring dream mentioned in an earlier post. [FOUND HERE]

Anyways take a look:

Below I am posting extracts of an excellent study by Frank W. Nelte that was written in January 1999, which study piece was posted by Tom Tanner (23 March 2010).

I have highlighted certain parts to provide emphasis.  The crux of the matter is that Nisan 1, whether you calculate this date on a molad (dark moon) or first moon crescent (one day later), cannot start before March 18.  Some believe that Nisan 1 cannot be in the winter ie before March 21.  This year (2010), Nisan 1 was on 15/16 March, which means that the start of the new Year (Nisan 1), should have been postponed by one lunar cycle indicating that Nisan 1 this year should have been on 14th or 15th April, depending on your calculation of molad or crescent moon.

Thus Passover (Nisan 14)   – 28/29 April

Wave offering (first fruits)  –  2 May

Pentecost (50 days)             – 20 June

To prove that the above is right, there should be 6 lunar months between Nisan 1 (15/16 March as shown in the calendar) and Tishri 1 (Rosh Hashana or Feast of Trumpets 09/10 Sept).  Do your calculations and you will see that at present there are 7 lunar months between Nisan 1 and Tishri 1.  The feast of Tabernacles this year, which is 15 days later is indicated on our calendar as falling on 23/24 September.  This is 100% in line with scriptures, which says that this is an Autumn festival that cannot be before 23 September 2010.

To conclude, 20 June 2010 (Pentecost) is a good watch date but I have a felling (no proof) that the rapture date might be on Rosh Hashana (09/10 Sept).

1)    The biblical requirements for a calendar that we have examined show that the year cannot start earlier than a certain date. However, are there any indications that a year cannot start later than a certain date, as long as there is not a shift to the next season in the year?

2)    The Passover and the Holy Days of the first month of the year must be in the spring (Exodus 12:2). The calendar must be constructed in such a way that these observances never shift back into winter or forward into summer. What is important about the first month is not so much the start of that month, as the days that are to be observed by God’s people. They must be in the spring.

3) The months should start at or very close to “the new moons.” A calendar that is used on a worldwide basis cannot have the start of each month precisely “AT” the new moon for all locations worldwide–thus also the option of “very close to the new moons.” Whether “new moon” must refer to the first faint visible crescent or to the invisible conjunction (molad) is a separate question, which we’ll also focus on later.

4) The year must start late enough (!) so that the barley is mature enough by the Sunday during the Days of Unleavened Bread to be available for the wave offering (Leviticus 23:10-14). It is not right to have the Sunday during the Days of Unleavened Bread (and sometimes this will be the first Day of Unleavened Bread) so early that there would (in the area of Palestine) simply not be any barley available for the wave offering.

·         5) The year must also be late enough (!) so that the Feast of Tabernacles will occur at or after the autumn equinox, which is on September 23 (see Exodus 34:22). Again, the whole Feast of Tabernacles must be in the autumn, not just the last day or two. Tabernacles is not a summer feast; it is an autumn feast!

In other words: as long as the Seventh Day of Unleavened Bread is still within spring, is there a requirement that Unleavened Bread conclude by a specific date?

2) For example, under the present Jewish calendar the Feast of Pentecost will always fall into the latter part of spring. It will never fall into summer! For Pentecost to fall on the first day of summer (June 21st), the Sunday during the Days of Unleavened Bread would have to be on May 3rd, exactly 7 weeks before June 21st.

4) Similarly, while Tabernacles should never start before the first day of autumn, is there any restriction as to how late in autumn it may be observed? Is there really any instruction that requires Tabernacles to start no later than October 18th/19th (present Jewish calendar), as opposed to starting only on October 27th (8 or 9 days later)?

Exodus 34:22 tells us that we are to observe the feast of ingathering “…at the year’s end.” The Hebrew phrase translated as “at the year’s end” is “the ‘tequfah’ of the year.” The word ‘tequfah’ refers to the two solstices (June 21st, December 21st) and the two equinoxes (March 21st, September 23rd), the four dates that signal the start of each of the four annual seasons. Perhaps the expression “at the tequfah of the year” implies that Tabernacles really should take place at the first possible date after September 23rd, the start of the season of autumn?

7) both of these requirements have been grossly violated by the present Jewish calendar since its inception in the 350’s A.D. by Hillel II.

XXII) When Should the First Month Start?

1) It seems we are all agreed that the Passover must be in the spring. I have pointed out that the Days of Unleavened Bread cannot be so early in the year that no barley would be available for the wave offering. To meet that requirement, it means that the 1st month can never start before March 18th.

2) But is that sufficient? Or should the first month of the year not even start in the winter? Should the 1st month never start before March 21st?

3) As far as I can see, the Bible does not really specify whether all of the 1st month must be in the spring, or whether a part of the first month being in the spring is sufficient. I suspect that only a part of the 1st month being in the spring will fulfill the requirements–and it obviously has to be a large enough part to ensure the availability of some barley for the wave offering, and also to ensure that the entire F.o.T. falls in the autumn.

4) However, in practical terms the difference between the minimum requirements (i.e. the year starting on or after March 18th) and this proposal (i.e. the year starting on or after March 21st) is only 3 days. And I don’t feel that accepting such a proposal would go against the principles revealed in the Bible.

The earliest Days of Unleavened Bread will start on April 1st in 1999 AD, the latest Days of Unleavened Bread will start on April 28th in 2010 AD, the earliest FoT will start on September 25th in 1999 AD, and the latest FoT will start on October 22nd in 2010 AD.

As we have covered a considerable amount of material in this paper, it may be helpful to summarize some of the main points. So here they are:

1) There is no “divinely revealed” calendar in existence today.

2) Astronomically we find that we have to deal with circuits that have been corrupted since the creation of Adam and Eve.

3) The present Jewish calendar was not given to Moses by God. The names of the months go back to Ezra, who brought the Babylonian calendar back to Jerusalem during the time of the Persian Empire. Ezra readily used the Babylonian calendar of that time.

4) The actual calculations of the present Jewish calendar were first devised by Greek astronomers.

5) The starting date of 3761 B.C. for the Jewish calendar makes clear that this calendar was only constructed at some point after 130 A.D. It could not have existed during the 1st century A.D.

6) Two biblical requirements for a correct calendar are that it must:

A) Never have the Feast of Tabernacles start in the summer.

B) Never have the Feast of Unleavened Bread so early that no barley would be ripe for the wave offering on the Sunday.

7) both of these requirements have been grossly violated by the present Jewish calendar since its inception in the 350’s A.D. by Hillel II.

8) In 360 A.D. Hillel II placed the Passover into the winter and the entire Feast of Tabernacles well into the summer. This gross violation continued for several centuries. This negates any possibility of “God’s approval” for this calendar.

9) In addition to violating 2 biblical requirements, the Jewish calendar also introduced “postponement rules” to prevent Atonement from falling on inconvenient days of the week.

10) The historical evidence makes quite clear that during the ministry of Jesus Christ these postponement rules simply did not exist. They were only invented at some point after 130 A.D. There is no justification of any kind for postponing Atonement away from inconvenient days.

While in the 1st century A.D. the Jews used a calendar based on the observations of the new moon crescents, there is no question that in our world today relying on visual observations would result in chaos. Today we simply have to have a calendar, with a worldwide application, that must be based on calculations, be it of the molad or be it of first visibility. Visual observations have no inherent value over calculations.

There are some years when it has the year starting one new moon too early, thereby placing a part of the Feast of Tabernacles into the summer, and also placing Unleavened Bread too early for having any barley available for the wave offering.

Can the year start as early as March 18th or should it never start before March 21st? The answer to this question will affect the leap year sequence that will be selected.

Should the calculations focus on the invisible molad or should they focus on first visibility at some location? Viewed from a worldwide application with a need for being practical, I personally see no objection to continuing to use the invisible molads.

Do we always use the calculated molad (or the calculated first visibility), even when that may be a few seconds before the end of the day? Or do we consistently apply the rule of postponing up to a maximum of 6 hours to the following day?

Well now, that’s encouraging! 🙂


2 Comments leave one →
  1. 7 June, 2010 22:06

    Thanks for creating this it was used as a source for a paper I am currently writing for my finals. Thanks

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    • 8 June, 2010 09:43

      You are more than welcome! I hope you get a good grade 🙂
      Blessings to you and family…


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